Again, that's a very unusual thing to play, because so often in stories, there's these side plots and triangles and things. Holden loves her, and trusts her, and respects her. I loved being able to show a committed relationship based on respect and love. And he always finds a way to pick himself up and learn from it and move. He's an idealist, but it's a naive idealism that is shaped through hard, awful moments of experiencing genocide, and blowing up doctors, and connecting circuits that sees vast death of an entire civilization, and all of this stuff that almost breaks him. That, to me, is the thing about Holden that I've always loved playing with over the years, as an actor, because that quality in him, as much as it always remains there, really does evolve. He knows two thirds of the system will hate him for this, but he knows it's right. It's a moment of real courage and bravery and strength. has a moment to really cement the change that is necessary to break the wheel of violence and oppression, and he takes it. He has frustrated the hell out of all of them at different points in the series, but he does what he always believes is the right thing. They look to him to be the figurehead of this because he's neutral, because each side knows that, ultimately, Holden has humanity's best interest at heart, not any one side. His empathy and humility is the linchpin that allows all these sides to come together in the end. It's a very different kind of masculinity than we often see in these kind of stories. He's someone who turns away from violence most often. He's a hero who chooses not to kill more often than not. I think by the end of the story, his particular kind of strength is very much one of humility and empathy.
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